In the Big Bang show here this continues. It is actually a pleasure to watch Dr Krauss moderate the series in large part where he is not so interested in proving materialism as a philosophy rather appreciates the unusual circumstances to the formation of of our universe out of nothing.  

I myself learn a lot form his educational series despite his cheap shots at Religious people.  What ever birlliance he has he cheapens by his disreguards for the beliefs of others.

I guess if Newton & Galileo were sitting in the audience  he would take shots at their beliefs as well?  I think they would put the good Dr in his place as WLC did.

I mean after all if WLC can take down in convincing fashion Krauss and Harris both of which should have had the clear advantage of "science on their side" then it simply means the "science" was not on their side. They have no explanation of  Emergence form nothing. All they can seem to do is try to redefine "nothing". 

And so what would be wrong from saying we come from nothing? Its obvious isn't it.  But not for many in this forum it would seem. 

Science of the gaps continues to rule for many here.