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rsmartin
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    07/11/09 at 11:18 PMReply with quote#1

Human Life--Evolution to Self Evolution
This series is the five-million-year story of how humans may have evolved from "tree living apes to modern man." There is only one percent difference between the genes of chimpanzees and humans. The narrator says that if we could take a child born five thousand years ago in the Stone Age and set it in the 21st century, that child could do everything we can today. Also, if we could set a child born today in the Stone Age, that child could do everything people did then. In other words, there is no difference between a child born in the Stone Age and today; there has been no biological evolution in all this time. This agrees with my observation of "ancient man" as portrayed in ancient literature such as the Bible, and in the ancient writings of the Greeks, Chinese, and Hindi.

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    07/12/09 at 02:32 PMReply with quote#2

It's too late at night for me to look RS but does it go into the pretty re cent development of the prefrontal lobe?
This is where we manufacture potential futures and check through them for the best and least dangerous ones instead of actively undergoing that danger.
This is undoubtedly what has set us apart and led to not only huge positive steps, but, because the development is in the working-out-the-wrinkles stage, has caused us problems too. In fact this is where exists what your average Joe might call the human condition, and a Buddhist would call Dukkha. It's pivotal for us to understand that our problems exist in our mind alone and nowhere, nowhere at all, outside it.
Then they cease to be problems.
Voila!

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    07/12/09 at 03:08 PMReply with quote#3

5 million years? I thought it was 35 millions ...
What's wrong with my numbers.

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    07/14/09 at 03:51 PMReply with quote#4

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It's too late at night for me to look RS but does it go into the pretty re cent development of the prefrontal lobe?
This is where we manufacture potential futures and check through them for the best and least dangerous ones instead of actively undergoing that danger.
This is undoubtedly what has set us apart and led to not only huge positive steps, but, because the development is in the working-out-the-wrinkles stage, has caused us problems too. In fact this is where exists what your average Joe might call the human condition, and a Buddhist would call Dukkha. It's pivotal for us to understand that our problems exist in our mind alone and nowhere, nowhere at all, outside it.
Then they cease to be problems.
Voila!

Night
John



No it does not look at that aspect at all--at least, not from a specialist perspective. I'd really like to see something like that if you know where to find such videos. Nor does it show intermediate versions of the evolution from ape to man. It focuses more on how we changed physically from chimpanzees walking on all fours to human walking on two feet, from chimps requiring six years to learn how to crack a nut by watching mama doing it to a much shorter period by spoken language instruction.

I liked one analogy; it said we value language so much that we risked death in order to gain it. It shows how the human wind pipe for speaking/breathing and the food pipe for swallowing food are so closely connected that occasionally people choke to death because food goes down the wrong pipe.

It also focused quite a bit on the function of the opposable thumb that allows us to hold something between finger and thumb. I understand this has some impact on brain development. It also talks about the large brain that makes a premature birth necessary for humans. This premature birth is what necessitates the long childhood of humans as opposed to other mamals that can walk almost as soon as they are born.

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    07/14/09 at 04:10 PMReply with quote#5

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5 million years? I thought it was 35 millions ...
What's wrong with my numbers.


Here's a chart from MIT.edu: http://web.mit.edu/ealba/www/hominidtimeline.jpg. I think it's somewhere in between your numbers and the videos I posted. I'm no expert in this stuff.

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    07/14/09 at 04:15 PMReply with quote#6

Flesh can deny spirit, but it is not qualified to do so.
Spirit can deny spirit, but it is committing error in doing so.

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    07/14/09 at 04:20 PMReply with quote#7

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Flesh can deny spirit, but it is not qualified to do so.
Spirit can deny spirit, but it is committing error in doing so.

What?

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    07/14/09 at 04:25 PMReply with quote#8

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Flesh can deny spirit, but it is not qualified to do so.
Spirit can deny spirit, but it is committing error in doing so.

What?


Just a little message to the materialists there...

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