Originally Posted by depthcharge623
I think it probably says something negative about me psyche, but I just realized that I subconsciously assume everyone on this forum is white, to the point where I was surprised to see the two previous posters say they are black haha.

Originally Posted by Archsage
I'm black.

Originally Posted by rsmartin


Hmmm. So I have to be a fan of whatever the majority of people in my area are a fan of. I see.

A bit of thought would enlighten you to the fact that this kind of thinking would have the entire human population locked into the same mindset and "like" patterns. 

I know what you mean about counter-racism.

I also understand why a person might choose a sport based on skin colour if they are in a minority. For some people, it's really important being with "their kind."

The high level of comfort and strong desire to be with one's "own kind" includes white-skinned people in a predominantly white country.

Originally Posted by MorleyMcMorson


I find it funny that you're commenting on what's essentially a joke.  You can be sensible and not like the Cardinals.  You can also like teams from other areas.  I used to like the Vikings, for example, back when Randy Moss first came on the scene.  Nothing weird or unseemly about that.

It's a little absurd to criticize this sort of 'regional' behavior, though.  I mean, I'm an American.  Is it clannish to root for America in the Olympics?  This used to be called patriotism.  Same goes for more localized things; I went to a specific high school.  Was I not supposed to support my high school's teams?  Should I have hoped that the teams I was personally on would lose?

Basing things on race is normally considered racist behavior.  If I only felt comfortable around certain groups, this would likely be due to some combination of racism and paranoia.

Seriously, though, the major point of this thread is just to highlight another instance of PC thought about race.  The premise that, on average, certain groups are swayed by race is assumed by basically everybody who thinks about politics.  Obama got 96% of the black vote in 2008; anybody who's ever taken statistics knows that that sort of total is not to be expected all things being equal.  The second highest total came in a year in which a person voted against civil rights!  Needless to say, McCain was a turd sandwich, but not at that level.  No way that, all else being equal, Obama would have gotten the totals he had if it weren't for racially motivated decisions on the part of all sorts of people, not just by black Americans.  It was the highest vote percentage ever by blacks; why could that be?  All the people who came out in support of gay marriage after Obama---again, same basic thing, although also partially just due to party loyalty, but race obviously played a part.  The NAACP, for example, fell in line with Obama.  I saw Jay-Z come out in favor of gay marriage with arguments that actually OPPOSE gay marriage!  This is not rational behavior; part of that can be attributed to liberalism in general, turning minds into mush, but some is undoubtedly also generally racist.  Earlier talk of choosing Rubio as VP is also predicated on the belief that Hispanics will be swayed by racial considerations.  Some Republicans though Rubio could help court the Latino vote, and many Democrats seriously pondered this, as well.  The reason is that both Democrats and Republicans both assume, in many cases, that people groups operate partially based on race.  And favoring people because of their race, well, that is not good.

To summarize: it's obvious that racism exists all over the place.  Focusing on things that aren't even racist, like the minimal number of blacks in/interested in baseball, and calling them racist is, to me anyway, disgusting.