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The tricky part is the "if Jesus was fully human" part. Jesus is the name of a person, which Craig (if I am interpreting him correctly) would identify as a center of self-consciousness. And Craig would further point out that a center of self-consciousness is not equivalent to a soul (on his view). The significance of this being, "Jesus was fully human" doesn't seem to be an identity statement. So the reasoning that humans are identical with souls, Jesus is human, therefore Jesus is a soul, wouldn't follow given Craig's assumptions.

I'm not sure about all this.  I want to say that Craig says conflicting things on this count, although I have no quotes handy right now.  I would be interested to know, however, how Craig (if he thinks what you describe) differentiates a "center of self-consciousness" from a soul.  What more does a soul provide, basically.

I have wondered the same thing. It's hard to see how "soul" is anything more than just a word on his model. However, one possibility is that, by "center of self-consciousness" Craig does not mean to refer to a substance but the set of cognitive faculties (volition, intellect, etc.) that any person has, and that the soul is the actual mental/immaterial substance in which those faculties consist. Or, again, it is possible that each divine person has/is it's own soul, necessarily united, and Craig simply refers to the united whole as a single soul. But this would bring his view closer to that of Swinburne's and Yandell's. 

Oddly enough, viewing mind and soul as separate entities might challenge God's aseity in the sense that God's three centers of consciousness would be made of a substance which isn't strictly identical with the persons themselves.  This would be a great thing to talk about with Craig in person.
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Oddly enough, viewing mind and soul as separate entities might challenge God's aseity in the sense that God's three centers of consciousness would be made of a substance which isn't strictly identical with the persons themselves.  This would be a great thing to talk about with Craig in person.

Yeah, there are a lot of things that I would like to talk to him about if I ever have the opportunity. 
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