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theowarner
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Posted 08/24/09
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Does anybody know if there's an audiobook version of this book? And, on a similar vein, transcripts of the podcasts?
I work with persons with disabilities and would like to know if this accessibility is available.
Thanks!
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Kenny
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Posted 08/06/10
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That's weird, Theo. You said that William Lane Craig likes to indoctrinate people. So, why would you want people to read or listen to Craig? I mean, I would like people to study Craig's works. But I guess you like it when people are indoctrinated then? There are no square-circles, Theo.
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theowarner
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Posted 08/06/10
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"Likes"?
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So, why would you want people to read or listen to Craig?
People who are interested in Christian apologetics should be aware of Dr. Craig.
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I mean, I would like people to study Craig's works. But I guess you like it when people are indoctrinated then?
No, I don't.
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Kenny
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No, you don't? Oh, I get it now! So, you want people to listen to Dr. Craig at the risk of being indoctrinated then anyway! Is that it?
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theowarner
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No, you don't? Oh, I get it now! So, you want people to listen to Dr. Craig at the risk of being indoctrinated then anyway! Is that it?
In my opinion, if someone is interested in Christian apologetics, then they should look into Dr. Craig's work. Does that view make sense to you?
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Kenny
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Posted 08/06/10
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Why dodge the implication about indoctrination, Theo? You also said that Dr. Craig is a sexist. So, you want people to listen to someone who is a misogynist? You think that's the rational thing to do?
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theowarner
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Why dodge the implication about indoctrination, Theo?
I won't answer questions that proceed from a false assumption. Indoctrination strikes me as generally bad. If that doesn't answer your question, you'll have to ask it again.
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So, you want people to listen to someone who is a misogynist? You think that's the rational thing to do?
My claim is not that people should listen to a misogynist. Nor should they be prohibited from listening to a misogynist. I think that if a person wants to investigate Christian apologetics, they should read Dr. Craig.
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Kenny
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So, since you believe that Dr. William Lane Craig indoctrinates people, you want people to listen to him anyway. And since you think that Dr. William Lane Craig is a sexist, you want people to listen to a sexist like him anyway. So, over all, you believe it's worth listening to people who are sexists and who indoctrinate people? That's pretty sick, Theo.
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theowarner
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kenny
So, since you believe that Dr. William Lane Craig indoctrinates people, you want people to listen to him anyway. And since you think that Dr. William Lane Craig is a sexist, you want people to listen to a sexist like him anyway. So, over all, you believe it's worth listening to people who are sexists and who indoctrinate people? That's pretty sick, Theo.
Your questions are rhetorically aggressive and unsympathetic.
I will explain this again.
My views on whether Dr. Craig indoctrinates people or his sexual politics are not at issue here. They are do not influence the relevance of Dr. Craig to the field of Christian apologetics. He is a very important and relevant Christian apologist and if people are interested in that field, they should read his work.
I hope that's clear. I've explained it several times.
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Kenny
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So, you think the fact that he's a Christian apologist that has no reflection or influence or relevance at all to the fact that he's a misogynist and someone who indoctrinates people and someone (as you claim) who is not a historian and someone (as you claim) who is not a philosopher? I don't think that makes much sense.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kenny
So, you think the fact that he's a Christian apologist that has no reflection or influence or relevance at all to the fact that he's a misogynist and someone who indoctrinates people and someone (as you claim) who is not a historian and someone (as you claim) who is not a philosopher? I don't think that makes much sense.
It doesn't make sense to me, either. But I think that's because you're missing a comma... or maybe it's a run-on sentence. What are you trying to ask me?
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Kenny
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I'll repeat  with commas and revisions since it's not so obvious to you:
So, you think the fact that he's a Christian apologist that has no reflection or influence or relevance at all to the fact that he's a misogynist, or someone who indoctrinates people, or someone (as you claim) who is not a historian, or someone (as you claim) who is not a philosopher? I don't think that makes much sense
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Quote: Originally Posted by KennyI'll repeat with commas and revisions since it's not so obvious to you:
So, you think the fact that he's a Christian apologist that has no reflection or influence or relevance at all to the fact that he's a misogynist, or someone who indoctrinates people, or someone (as you claim) who is not a historian, or someone (as you claim) who is not a philosopher? I don't think that makes much sense
Sorry... I don't understand the question. Can you rephrase it?
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Kenny
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How is that so hard to understand? But then again, you thought square-circles exist.
For the 3rd time, revised, rephrased, with commas, etc.:
The fact that Dr. Craig is (as you say) a misogynist, and someone who (as you say) indoctrinates people, and someone (as you claim) who is not a historian, and someone (as you claim) who is not a philosopher has absolutely no relevance or reflection upon the fact that he's an important Christian apologist? To me, that makes no sense.
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theowarner
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kenny
The fact that Dr. Craig is (as you say) a misogynist, and someone who (as you say) indoctrinates people, and someone (as you claim) who is not a historian, and someone (as you claim) who is not a philosopher has absolutely no relevance or reflection upon the fact that he's an important Christian apologist? To me, that makes no sense.
Thanks for rephrasing the question. RationalResponseGuy was always too immature to do that.
So, your question is about whether Craig is an important Christian apologist. Now, do you mean "in my opinion"? Or as a matter of fact? Because I would say that his status as an important Christian is an objective fact and not affected by my opinion. Would you agree?
As such, the obvious answer to your question is: "Yes." But you say that doesn't make sense to you.
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